This was quite a bugfixy week in KDE’s Usability and Productivity initiative, but we managed to squeeze in a cool new feature! See for yourself:
- Dolphin now has a “Share” menu just like the one in Spectacle and Okular (Nicolas Fella, KDE Frameworks 5.48):
- Folder view widgets that have been placed in a panel once again behave correctly when clicked (Eike Hein, KDE Plasma 5.13.3)
- With compositing off, the default panel now covers the entire bottom of the screen properly (Vlad Zagorodniy, KDE Frameworks 5.48)
- GTK windows without client-side decorations (i.e. those that use the standard KWin-drawn server-side decorations, like the titlebar and shadow) once again have window decorations on Wayland (David Edmundson, GTK 3.24)
- Devices whose size cannot be determined no longer show up as “0 B Hard Drive” in the Places panel (Kai Uwe Broulik, KDE Frameworks 5.48)
- Discover no longer shows packages removed via the terminal as still being installed (Aleix Pol, KDE Plasma 5.12.6)
- When viewing the Properties dialog for a file on the desktop, the “Share” tab is now visible (Kai Uwe Broulik, 18.08.0)
- search:/ and timeline:/ entries now work again from the Kickoff Application Launcher menu (Kai Uwe Broulik, KDE Plasma 5.12.6)
UI Polish & Improvement
- When KRunner finds and displays an entry from your Places panel, the name of its category appears to the right of it (Kai Uwe Broulik, KDE Plasma 5.12.6)
- Modernized the layout of some pages in Dolphin’s settings window (me: Nate Graham, KDE Applications 18.08.0):
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40 thoughts on “This week in Usability & Productivity, part 26”
Thanks for the post.
1) Firefox does not use kde plasma’s filepicker and instead uses something else. Any plans to fix this? Is this an issue with firefox or plasma? Chrome seems to use the plasma filepicker
2) The wireless double prompt bug is still there : if I change my desktop account password, plasma prompts me for a password everytime. It does not remember passwords.
I’m using kubuntu 18.04
1. This is a limitation of Firefox itself, sadly. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528510
2. That’s a different bug. See https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=389030
About 1. I can confirm the OpenSUSE patches are hackish and work intermittently and raise way more issues than they solve.
Dolphin improvements reminded me about KDE dialog. Why does it scrolls only horizontally and not vertically? I’m not sure if that’s something I can change, request a feature, a bug or am I missing something? Why it behaves differently then Dolphin windows?
Instead scrolling down I see narrow window and have to scroll right for lengthy time to find a file or a directory. This feels unnatural and is confusing.
Can you file a bug that includes a screenshot?
OK, I found out that only icon view has horizontal scrolling. This is weird, because sometimes I do need icon view especially when I pick pictures, also I need to make them big and then I have to scroll horizontally. On other hand, icon view allows only for the same size icons as detailed view and the latter allows for vertical scrolling. Hmm… I guess I have to use different view mode then ;). Problem solved ;).
Sometimes one have to write to someone to find out the answers for themselves :P.
Ah, you’re talking about the open/save dialog. We have a lot of improvements planned for it, some of which have already landed. See https://phabricator.kde.org/T8552
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In the file upload dialog box click Options -> Icon Position -> Above File Name. This should get you vertical scrolling for the “Short View” mode.
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Wow, didn’t notice this option although I was looking at it so many times! Switching to ” Above File Name” really switched to vertical scrolling with short view! THANK YOU! 😀
Sending via Bluetooth and KDE Connect seem to fit into the Sharing category, why aren’t they there?
Once we get this “Share” menu integrated everywhere, we’ll take a look at consolidating our existing sharing options into it to reduce duplication.
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The dolphin share button is nice. The screenshot als shows “send via Bluetooth ” etc. Those could be merged within the new share menu.
Also: dolphin often shows a useful action button that contains things like rename with krename. Would be nice if the compress stuff could be merged there cause it’s kind of a similar action.
Thanks for your work!
Glad you’re enjoying it! Thanks for the suggestion.
Actually the Share Menu is implemented in Purpose and thus will be available with the next Frameworks release 🙂
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Dolphin has a Share menu and Send Via Bluetooth/KDE Connect are not in there…
It’s because they are using different internal APIs.
KDE Connect actually is in the share menu. Right now it’s shown two times, but we’re working on that.
As for Bluetooth, we’re working on moving that to the Share menu as well
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“It’s because they are using different internal APIs.”
So these are no longer using servicemenus? Does that mean we won’t be able to enable, disable, and install “share” menu entries like we can with servicemenu entries?
You will indeed, once we add that feature! 🙂 See https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=394755
Keep in mind that most servicemenus aren’t migrating to the Share menu.
Since these isntallments started … no sunday morning is the same without Nate’s smiling face followed by this tasty & delicious reports 🙂
Thanks a gazillion for each second of your precious time, Nate, David, Eike , Alexei , Vlad , Kai …. and everybody i’m forgetting now , you’re all certainly making the world a better place .
One non-directly related question to share menus :
All of a sudden spectacle’s function to export->share to imgur stopped working .
It worked fine ( although it was kinda slow… even with tiny screencaps using a 100/100 mb internet connection ) on Plasma 5.12… i’d say even before that version… but now it just does nothing when you click on it.
Is there any way i can test this further to check what it does step by step on a terminal ?
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P.S. : Almost forgot …
Using KDE Neon ( up to date; Plasma 5.13.2 / KDE frameworks 5.47.0 / QT Version 5.11.0 , ) | Hardware: I7 4770 + Nvidia 970
This is Export > Share > Imgur?” In what way does it no longer work?
” Export > Share > Imgur ” Yes, that’s the one .
What happens now it’s exactly how it sounds i’m afraid 😛 :
I take one screenshot ( don’t think this info helps … but most of the time i add a small 5 secs delay + rectangular selection ) , then go with my mouse cursor Export > Share > Imgur ( click on Imgur ) … and does absolutely nothing 😐 … like clicking there doesn’t trigger any even anymore 😛 .
It’s something i use often, so ‘ve been aware of this for a good while when it stopped working . Not exactly dramatic, but as of late have been wondering if there’s a way to check what’s the issue behind.
Weird. Does the same happen if you open an image in Okular and do File > Share > Imgur there? If so, please file a bug against frameworks-purpose. If not, please file a bug against Spectacle. Also see https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/Bug_Reporting
Just tried with Okular now … exactly the same behavior … absolutely nothing happens 😐
Will file a bug for this ( my second one actually ) … as soon as i manage to recover my password 😛
Has there been recent discussions on the default font? I hope I don’t step on anyone’s toes for saying this, but IMO the defaults are quite weak. The simple action of shifting to a pure-black display text (HTML #000000) would help a lot with readability.
I pitched #000000 when I last tweaked the font colors in https://phabricator.kde.org/D7424, but that was rejected in favor of the current darker gray color. People were worried that pure black text would look too harsh and stark against pure wight backgrounds used in some places.
I think a potential avenue of further improvement is to reduce the darkness of the gray used for window and button backgrounds, which is being discussed. If we make that a lighter shade, it will have the effect of improving text contrast for text used in buttons and other controls.
Additionally, I find that an 11pt font is vastly easier on the eyes than 10pt, quite aside from the inherent contrast of the text and background colors. Changing the default to 11pt isn’t yet possible because there are many UI elements that unnecessarily increase their size when you bump up the font size, and we’d need to fix those first. But I personally run with 12pt Ubuntu and the default Breeze color scheme, and I find that everything looks sharp, readable, and beautiful, and I can live with some things being a tiny bit bigger than they need to be.
Thank you for your efforts. I also find the default font size to be slightly small, although when I increase Noto Sans to 11pt I can’t help but feel that it doesn’t look good; quite “unmodern” compared to the default fonts of certain other OSs and DEs. I personally prefer Source Sans Pro 11pt. It’s *really* pleasing (with proper AA) and I actually prefer the resulting size increase of UI elements.
Hello Nate! I am always waiting for this weekly report on my beloved DE.
I was thinking, after seeing the first image, that the Online Accounts module (or whatever it is) is really underused. It could be an usful way to converge accounts across different apps instead of manually login in each one; just like gnome does. Also, this could encourage more devs to create new kio-plugins.
Anyway, cheers and thanks for this weekly posts!
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Ah, one more thing about Dolphin. I believe there was a fix for content not to jump when Dolphin window is resized (from maximized to not maximized)? I hoped to see it in KDE Frameworks 5.47 but it’s still not there.
It’s highly irritating to find and click a file, then un-maximize icon to be forced to scroll again for the matched file, because view was displaced.
If the fix is already there as I recall it should, awesome! If not, let me know if I should file a bug.
What is gross about it?
Another report, another spanish translation! 😉
BTW, I would like to have an option to share by Bluetooth an image viewed in Gwenview…
anyway, good work. Thanks!!
bad link ^
This is the right one: https://victorhckinthefreeworld.com/2018/07/09/mejorando-kde-en-facilidad-de-uso-y-productividad-parte-26/
Hi Nate, really appreciate the updates as always.
I’ve been following the progress on bringing displaying creation time support to Dolphin and wanted to give you a heads up that glibc support for statx is almost here:
I wondered if this would make it possible to let Dolphin preserve the creation time when moving files (Windows Explorer behavior), however I’ve been reading up on it and (to my very limited understanding) it looks like that would require support from some other components as well.
I had actually been hoping to see this supported on NTFS, but that’s looking even less likely to happen.
Anyway, thanks for the amazing work.
Yep, I’m very excited to see statx support in glibc. I tried implementing it using raw syscalls but it was just too complicated for me; see https://phabricator.kde.org/D7423
Note that once support is actually in glibc, it may still be a long time before we can count on being able to use it as some distros are very very slow to update things. In the end, the raw syscall approach is probably best for the next few years–provided someone with aubstantially better low-level programming skills can give me a hand or grab the patch.
Wow, I would be happy to see statx support. Currently it’s too easy to move files, timestamps may change and cloud sync apps go crazy uploading/downloading whole GBs of data unnecessary. This can be a pain to bandwidths, space and can create some duplicates that are named as conflicting files. Now I know why such operations never caused issues on Windows, while having Linux computers connected to cloud make it so much harder and more problematic.
Too bad that you will be waiting for Debian or Ubuntu to catch on… 😦 unless you can somehow make it behave as: if the new glibc is present it will preserve timestamps, if not, it will default for old behavior. This way cutting edge distros may enjoy this improved behavior so much sooner.
By the way: developers should at least have neon and rolling release systems in the same. If I understand it correctly, you are mostly testing it for and on Neon, while on for example Arch systems some different issues come out because of the different versions.
I realize that this variety may be a pain to developers. Not only consider popular ubuntus but cutting edge ones and also deal with users who use ancient versions of Plasma.
Hi, it would be interesting to see an option to manage user and groups in the system settings, is there any plans to add something like that in a future? thanks.
Managing users is already there. Managing groups is tracked by https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365787
I want to file a bug/wish to the logout and the login screen. In the past there was an option where you could “reboot into selected grub-entry”. But I do not know which components I have to file this to. Could name/link me to them?